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		<title>Comment on Can&#8217;t Get Online Week &#8211; Day 6 by Simon Martin (@mwalimurural)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Martin (@mwalimurural)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I said yesterday, John, I am immensely impressed with what you have achieved this week.
You have created an illustrated narrative that links all of rural England effectively. You have enabled individuals &amp; communities to tell their own stories to a wider world when they would never have had an opportunity to be heard otherwise.
And, again, as I&#039;ve said previously, you have rightly drawn attention to some of the real disadvantages faced by rural communities with communications &amp; connectivity that bleed into so many areas of ordinary life and work. But you&#039;ve also shown what can be done to alleviate these problems, and how the problems themselves are often a catalyst to creating community dynamism. And few of these difficulties are best handled in any any way other than by community action.
Now, go and get a good rest. We&#039;ll catch up with your more measured reflections when you&#039;ve had time to recuperate.
Many thanks for taking this on.
Simon Martin
Arthur Rank Centre (www.arthurrankcentre.org.uk)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said yesterday, John, I am immensely impressed with what you have achieved this week.<br />
You have created an illustrated narrative that links all of rural England effectively. You have enabled individuals &amp; communities to tell their own stories to a wider world when they would never have had an opportunity to be heard otherwise.<br />
And, again, as I&#8217;ve said previously, you have rightly drawn attention to some of the real disadvantages faced by rural communities with communications &amp; connectivity that bleed into so many areas of ordinary life and work. But you&#8217;ve also shown what can be done to alleviate these problems, and how the problems themselves are often a catalyst to creating community dynamism. And few of these difficulties are best handled in any any way other than by community action.<br />
Now, go and get a good rest. We&#8217;ll catch up with your more measured reflections when you&#8217;ve had time to recuperate.<br />
Many thanks for taking this on.<br />
Simon Martin<br />
Arthur Rank Centre (www.arthurrankcentre.org.uk)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can&#8217;t Get Online Week &#8211; Day 5 by Graham Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John. A most interesting and enjoyable read. I was just wondering - it might be quicker for you to stick all the video clips on a DVD and put them in the post. I&#039;ll be happy to upload the m for you ;-)
Best wishes
Graham]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John. A most interesting and enjoyable read. I was just wondering &#8211; it might be quicker for you to stick all the video clips on a DVD and put them in the post. I&#8217;ll be happy to upload the m for you <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Best wishes<br />
Graham</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can&#8217;t Get Online Week &#8211; Day 5 by Simon Martin (@mwalimurural)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Martin (@mwalimurural)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John
It has been truly fascinating following your journey.
I have been an advocate for any means of developing or improving rural broadband access (alongside mobile coverage) for several years - due to my work in resourcing &amp; providing training for ministers and congregations in rural churches all over the country.
You&#039;ve shown that the problems are more varied and considerably larger than I had realised. But equally importantly, you&#039;ve highlighted a series of potential solutions and approaches - especially coherent community planning &amp; action - that are doable, regardless of what the govt and major commercial players think or suggest.
I would like to see if there is some way of you providing a summary account (with problems &amp; potential solutions highlighted) that I could put on our website, which would then include links to all the videos &amp; blogs you have accumulated.
I&#039;m only sorry I haven&#039;t been able to get any of my rural church contacts onboard for this week. But I certainly intend to push the leagcy under their noses!
Keep up the good work,
Simon Martin
Arthur Rank Centre (www.arthurrankcentre.org.uk)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John<br />
It has been truly fascinating following your journey.<br />
I have been an advocate for any means of developing or improving rural broadband access (alongside mobile coverage) for several years &#8211; due to my work in resourcing &amp; providing training for ministers and congregations in rural churches all over the country.<br />
You&#8217;ve shown that the problems are more varied and considerably larger than I had realised. But equally importantly, you&#8217;ve highlighted a series of potential solutions and approaches &#8211; especially coherent community planning &amp; action &#8211; that are doable, regardless of what the govt and major commercial players think or suggest.<br />
I would like to see if there is some way of you providing a summary account (with problems &amp; potential solutions highlighted) that I could put on our website, which would then include links to all the videos &amp; blogs you have accumulated.<br />
I&#8217;m only sorry I haven&#8217;t been able to get any of my rural church contacts onboard for this week. But I certainly intend to push the leagcy under their noses!<br />
Keep up the good work,<br />
Simon Martin<br />
Arthur Rank Centre (www.arthurrankcentre.org.uk)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can&#8217;t Get Online Week &#8211; Day 4 by Chris Conder</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Conder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to the CLA for help making it possible for John to come to our village and make the videos and talk to the people, I think it is important to record all this stuff for history purposes as well as using it to raise awareness at the moment.  John is really good at making folk feel at ease and getting these deep insights into what is really going on in rural areas.
I just wish an MP or some of our county councillors would shadow him for a week and then they wouldn&#039;t be taken in by the telco spin quite as much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the CLA for help making it possible for John to come to our village and make the videos and talk to the people, I think it is important to record all this stuff for history purposes as well as using it to raise awareness at the moment.  John is really good at making folk feel at ease and getting these deep insights into what is really going on in rural areas.<br />
I just wish an MP or some of our county councillors would shadow him for a week and then they wouldn&#8217;t be taken in by the telco spin quite as much.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can&#8217;t Get Online Week &#8211; Day 1 by Ian McKay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian McKay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Tim: Can&#039;t offer scientific tests but from a user point of view, 3Mobile is very good throughout the Forest on my Nokia, unless you are in densely wooded areas where it sometimes fails. Vodaphone is good too though best around major north-south and east-west arterial routes. I no longer use Vodaphone however. I also run a Sony E on Orange and that always defaults to the T-Mobile roaming facility that my account has, once away from any village or A Road (and T-Mobile fails once in the remote open forest areas, regardless of tree cover). Orange even fails within 1/2 mile of Lyndhurst village centre which technically is the heart of Forest commerce. The best coverage seems to be 3Mobile in my personal experience. I also use GPS devices for walking and photo-tracking and have experimented with a few: the best coverage is provided using the SatMap10 I&#039;ve found. Garmin&#039;s lighter units start to lose signal in really dense summer tree cover though I&#039;ve heard there&#039;s been some improvement in that. The north of the Forest is more open and easier to get a signal on high ground, but again, Orange is the worst in this respect and I certainly wouldn&#039;t rely on an Orange connection if I required it for safety during riding or a very long walk in remote parts. Hope this helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tim: Can&#8217;t offer scientific tests but from a user point of view, 3Mobile is very good throughout the Forest on my Nokia, unless you are in densely wooded areas where it sometimes fails. Vodaphone is good too though best around major north-south and east-west arterial routes. I no longer use Vodaphone however. I also run a Sony E on Orange and that always defaults to the T-Mobile roaming facility that my account has, once away from any village or A Road (and T-Mobile fails once in the remote open forest areas, regardless of tree cover). Orange even fails within 1/2 mile of Lyndhurst village centre which technically is the heart of Forest commerce. The best coverage seems to be 3Mobile in my personal experience. I also use GPS devices for walking and photo-tracking and have experimented with a few: the best coverage is provided using the SatMap10 I&#8217;ve found. Garmin&#8217;s lighter units start to lose signal in really dense summer tree cover though I&#8217;ve heard there&#8217;s been some improvement in that. The north of the Forest is more open and easier to get a signal on high ground, but again, Orange is the worst in this respect and I certainly wouldn&#8217;t rely on an Orange connection if I required it for safety during riding or a very long walk in remote parts. Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can&#8217;t Get Online Week &#8211; Day 1 by johnpopham</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not done any scientific tests, but most people are complaining about next to no mobile signals at all. Three seems to have better cover than most, although in Marchwood, people were saying only Vodafone has coverage]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not done any scientific tests, but most people are complaining about next to no mobile signals at all. Three seems to have better cover than most, although in Marchwood, people were saying only Vodafone has coverage</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can&#8217;t Get Online Week &#8211; Day 1 by Tim Difford (@timdifford)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Difford (@timdifford)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, what was mobile data like in the area across the various networks?  Did you get a chance to try?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, what was mobile data like in the area across the various networks?  Did you get a chance to try?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can&#8217;t Get Online Week &#8211; Day 1 by Ian McKay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian McKay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for a very interesting start to Can&#039;t Get Online Week here in the New Forest.

Marchwood does have problems, for sure, but there are other areas of the Forest where users are only able to check an email account once in every few weeks due to poor or near-non-existent service – looking at web pages? Forget it. I recently emailed an Internet user in a part of the New Forest with good service, who then referred me to her colleague in a more remote area. She added at the end of the email, &quot;don&#039;t be surprised if she doesn&#039;t get back to you straight away. Her service is so bad, she only bothers connecting once a month as it is so time-consuming it can take all day just to get a connection and check email.&quot;

Getting online is only half the problem in the New Forest though. I note that you write that for certain Marchwood residents, watching the BBC iPlayer is but a dream. This is true. The &#039;Waterside Parishes&#039; of the New Forest have variable connectivity and a large population that puts great pressure on what service there is. The problems do not stop there however. While entertainment (and the needs of business, which you also address here) are certainly an issue, the provision of information about local issues by key organisations of governance in the New Forest is also an issue. It&#039;s as though (connectivity aside) the Internet has come late to this part of Hampshire.

One of the major problems affecting the New Forest as a broad and varied community is that, once online, many of its organisations of governance are simply not geared up to meet the expectations of an Internet savvy population. It&#039;s as though the penny has only just dropped with regard to the need to provide reliable content about local issues by organisations such as New Forest District Council, the local Parish councils (some are better than others) and the National Park Authority (which, since its inception, has had an impact on most people&#039;s lives in both big and small ways). 

These organisations of governance just don&#039;t seem to understand simple issues concerning the Internet and how best to use it to strengthen the community links that you speak of here. A good example of this is the decision earlier this year by the National Park Authority (the NPA) to reorganise its website and reshuffle the content. Every local business, hotelier, B&amp;B, community organisation or individual user who had web pages linking to specific content on the National Park Authority website, suddenly found that their links were broken because the NPA didn&#039;t understand the basics when it came to maintaining a central mine of information that their site represented. 

To give a brief picture of what this actually meant, one New Forest site operator had to rebuild 180+ links to content on the NPA site because everything had moved and users were getting &#039;Page not Found&#039; messages. Crucial information concerning planning issues, issues affecting businesses, community matters, local events, key contact information, and so on, was lost and, as a community, we had to start rebuilding our links to key sources of information to keep people informed (including, ironically, information about how to get online). 

At the other end of the scale, New Forest District Council has an abundance of micro-sites that seem to constantly spring up and then disappear or get mothballed once they are met with a near-total lack of interest in their paltry PR offerings. Articles languish on these micro-sites, quickly becoming out of date, and leaving those that CAN get online in the New Forest feeling that there is a skills vacuum from their key local information providers, or a lack of will to provide local content that is relevant and useful.

In the New Forest, the truth is that while getting online can be possible if support, encouragement and technical assistance is available, once you do you find that  our central agencies that should have been taking a far more active lead are themselves only just getting to grips with what the Internet can offer its community (and for the most part they are getting it wrong).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for a very interesting start to Can&#8217;t Get Online Week here in the New Forest.</p>
<p>Marchwood does have problems, for sure, but there are other areas of the Forest where users are only able to check an email account once in every few weeks due to poor or near-non-existent service – looking at web pages? Forget it. I recently emailed an Internet user in a part of the New Forest with good service, who then referred me to her colleague in a more remote area. She added at the end of the email, &#8220;don&#8217;t be surprised if she doesn&#8217;t get back to you straight away. Her service is so bad, she only bothers connecting once a month as it is so time-consuming it can take all day just to get a connection and check email.&#8221;</p>
<p>Getting online is only half the problem in the New Forest though. I note that you write that for certain Marchwood residents, watching the BBC iPlayer is but a dream. This is true. The &#8216;Waterside Parishes&#8217; of the New Forest have variable connectivity and a large population that puts great pressure on what service there is. The problems do not stop there however. While entertainment (and the needs of business, which you also address here) are certainly an issue, the provision of information about local issues by key organisations of governance in the New Forest is also an issue. It&#8217;s as though (connectivity aside) the Internet has come late to this part of Hampshire.</p>
<p>One of the major problems affecting the New Forest as a broad and varied community is that, once online, many of its organisations of governance are simply not geared up to meet the expectations of an Internet savvy population. It&#8217;s as though the penny has only just dropped with regard to the need to provide reliable content about local issues by organisations such as New Forest District Council, the local Parish councils (some are better than others) and the National Park Authority (which, since its inception, has had an impact on most people&#8217;s lives in both big and small ways). </p>
<p>These organisations of governance just don&#8217;t seem to understand simple issues concerning the Internet and how best to use it to strengthen the community links that you speak of here. A good example of this is the decision earlier this year by the National Park Authority (the NPA) to reorganise its website and reshuffle the content. Every local business, hotelier, B&amp;B, community organisation or individual user who had web pages linking to specific content on the National Park Authority website, suddenly found that their links were broken because the NPA didn&#8217;t understand the basics when it came to maintaining a central mine of information that their site represented. </p>
<p>To give a brief picture of what this actually meant, one New Forest site operator had to rebuild 180+ links to content on the NPA site because everything had moved and users were getting &#8216;Page not Found&#8217; messages. Crucial information concerning planning issues, issues affecting businesses, community matters, local events, key contact information, and so on, was lost and, as a community, we had to start rebuilding our links to key sources of information to keep people informed (including, ironically, information about how to get online). </p>
<p>At the other end of the scale, New Forest District Council has an abundance of micro-sites that seem to constantly spring up and then disappear or get mothballed once they are met with a near-total lack of interest in their paltry PR offerings. Articles languish on these micro-sites, quickly becoming out of date, and leaving those that CAN get online in the New Forest feeling that there is a skills vacuum from their key local information providers, or a lack of will to provide local content that is relevant and useful.</p>
<p>In the New Forest, the truth is that while getting online can be possible if support, encouragement and technical assistance is available, once you do you find that  our central agencies that should have been taking a far more active lead are themselves only just getting to grips with what the Internet can offer its community (and for the most part they are getting it wrong).</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Matt Rhys-Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Rhys-Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My mum&#039;s village of Gwynfryn on a hill near Wrexham appears to be suffering from poor internet connection speed. How can this small community amplify their voice to demand a competitive broadband quality, especially as more people do their business electronically?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mum&#8217;s village of Gwynfryn on a hill near Wrexham appears to be suffering from poor internet connection speed. How can this small community amplify their voice to demand a competitive broadband quality, especially as more people do their business electronically?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Update &#8211; Programme coming together by Thomas Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 11:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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Don&#039;t access the other address unless you want to buy a bible.]]></description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t access the other address unless you want to buy a bible.</p>
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